Samir Beshirli (Shah Xatai) писал(а) 04.01.2010 :: 13:25:27:во первых Википедиа это не источник,и не доказательства
Здесь не шуточные баталия по поводу текста в википедии о Сефевидах с участием ваших соотечествиноков.
Моженте присоединится с вашими доводами и изменить написанное.
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Обсуждение:СефевидыSamir Beshirli (Shah Xatai) писал(а) 04.01.2010 :: 13:25:27:цитату от Саффат ас Сафы пожалуста в каком главе и в какой странице это написано??
Ираника по мне вполне достаточно.
EBN BAZZĀZ, DARVĪŠ TAWAKKOLĪ b. Esmāʿīl b. Ḥājī Ardabīlī, author of the Ṣafwat al-ṣafāʾ, a biography of Shaikh Ṣafī-al-Dīn Esḥāq Ardabīlī (d. 935/1334), founder of the Safavid order of Sufis and the eponym of the Safavid dynasty. Ebn Bazzāz was a desciple of Shaikh Ṣadr-al-Dīn Ardabīlī (d. 794/1391-92), the son and successor of Shaikh Ṣafī-al-Dīn. The work, also entitled al-Mawāheb al-sanīya fī manāqeb al-Ṣafawīya, deals mainly with Shaikh Ṣafī-al-Dīn’s miracles and sayings and contains little of a biographical nature (see Browne, Lit. Hist. Persia IV, pp. 38-39, for a list of its contents). Ebn Bazzāz completed this voluminous work (over 800 folios) around 759/1358, only twenty-four years after the death of Shaikh Ṣafī-al-Dīn. It is written in a straightforward style, without much rhetorical embellishment. Ideologically-motivated alterations were already present in a manuscript dated 914/1508, during the reign of Shah Esmāʿīl I (Aya Sofya 2123; Togan). Shah Ṭahmāsb (930-84/1524-76) ordered Mīr Abu’l-Fatḥ Ḥosaynī to produce a revised edition of the Ṣafwat al-ṣafāʾ. This official version contains textual changes designed to obscure the Kurdish origins of the Safavid family and to vindicate their claim to descent from the Imams.
Bibliography: (For cited works not given in detail, see “Short References.”) E. Glassen, “Ibn al-Bazzāz al-Ardabīlī” in EI2, supp., pp. 382-83. Storey, pp. 939-40. For mss. and the question of alterations, see Z. V. Togan, “Sur l’Origine des Safavides,” in Mélanges Louis Massignon, Damascus, 1957, III, pp. 345-57. For the authenticity of the Safavid genealogy given in the Ṣafwat al-ṣafāʾ, see S. A. (Kasrawī) Tabrīzī, “Nežād o tabār-e Ṣafawīya,” Āyanda II, 1306-07 Š./ 1927-28, pp. 357-65, 489-97. Idem, “Bāz ham Ṣafawīya,” ibid., pp. 801-12. Idem, Šayḵ Ṣafī wa tabār-aš, Tehran, 1323 Š./1944. M. M. Mazzaoui, The Origins of the Safavids. Šīʿism, Ṣūfism, and the Ġulāt, Wiesbaden, 1972, pp. 47, n. 3, and 50, n. 7.
(ROGER SAVORY)
http://www.iranica.com/newsite/index.isc?Article=http://www.iranica.com/newsite/...Samir Beshirli (Shah Xatai) писал(а) 04.01.2010 :: 13:25:27:А во вторых я бы посоветал тебе читать Петрушевского,Бартольда,Минорского,хотя читатьь Всемирную Историю,
и других что они говорят о Сефевидах
Мнение Минорского легко нашёл.
According to Vladimir Minorsky[31]:“ After 907/1502 Adharbayjan became the chielf bulwark and rallying ground of the Safawids, themselves natives of Ardabil
and originally speaking the local Iranian dialect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_dynastyссылкой на
^ (Minorsky, V.; "Adgharbaydjan (Azarbaydjan), Encyclopedia of Islam. 2nd edition. Edited by P. Berman, Th. Bianquis, C.E. Bosworth, E. van Donzel and W.P. Henrichs. Brill 2009. Accessed through Brill online:
www.encislam.brill.nl (2009)
Samir Beshirli (Shah Xatai) писал(а) 04.01.2010 :: 13:25:27:А кто правит в Азербайджаном-это не твоя дела,мы им довольны
Это хорошо ,что не отрицайте их курдское происхождение.
Такое же как вероятнее всего у Сефевидов.